A Guarantee.

[Knight]

Originally Posted by Nozemi

You've got this all wrong.

1. We simply can't guarantee a stable playerbase.
2. The last remakes failed because it's a community hard to satisfy. Some wants changes, others don't. Changes are introduced, people quit, responsible people discontinue it and cancel the servers (waste of money). The current one has been up and running since around February 2019, so well over a year now.
3. No, we absolutely won't guarantee any regular updates. At least I won't, and the other developer do things whenever he has time. This thing is strictly to provide the nostalgic experience of having a server online for those who wish to play.

There really is no point in advertising. Never was. Everything was too messy to benefit in the slightest from advertisements. Nobody were able to clean up the mess before the thing was discontinued.

Highly unlikely that anyone will put money into advertising the current one as well. There is a very limited interest in Dodian remakes these days. I'm personally just tired of seeing a new one pop up every half year or so because someone won't let it die. So I've taken it upon myself to make sure a remake remains online to avoid this.

In the process I decided that all monetizing of Dodian is removed, at least until we can provide something worth paying for.

If someone wants to see real progress or changes on here, someone needs to provide the funding. The only motivator to develop a Dodian remake these days is for money. The remake itself won't make nearly enough to pay for developers that can make regular updates. However if community wishes, things can be crowd-funded.

I've got it wrong?

I think not. I've been playing since Fab made his #298 and I was one of the only players playing for months on end, no one seemed to care to see the game progress. Constant bugs, no advertisements, etc. YET, the donations received from many of your projects has gone toward NOTHING but the host. No one ever seemed to care to see Dodian continue.

Now we are in 2020 and you want to bring back the past, but with a strict "nostalgic" approach. That's awful and it will be a repeat of the history of any remake of Dodian.

It's sad you few own the domains to these names and want to build something from it. I'm sorry, but you should not be remaking something if you plan to ruin everything in the blink of an eye each time you decide you want to quit!

Awful management and quite frankly pathetic!

Originally Posted by Knight

I've got it wrong?

I think not. I've been playing since Fab made his #298 and I was one of the only players playing for months on end, no one seemed to care to see the game progress. Constant bugs, no advertisements, etc. YET, the donations received from many of your projects has gone toward NOTHING but the host. No one ever seemed to care to see Dodian continue.

Now we are in 2020 and you want to bring back the past, but with a strict "nostalgic" approach. That's awful and it will be a repeat of the history of any remake of Dodian.

It's sad you few own the domains to these names and want to build something from it. I'm sorry, but you should not be remaking something if you plan to ruin everything in the blink of an eye each time you decide you want to quit!

Awful management and quite frankly pathetic!

Alright man. You seem to have it all figured out. Go make your own remake

[Knight]

Originally Posted by Nozemi

Alright man. You seem to have it all figured out. Go make your own remake

Typical response.

I and many others only want to see this success and you want to shutdown any approach to a successful Dodian remake. You blame us' for your failures and want us to figure it out on our own.

I've watched you Nozemi attempt this for years and you never produce a single successful remake. You are the wrong person for management clearly and with these responses they show your true intentions.

Originally Posted by Knight

Typical response.

I and many others only want to see this success and you want to shutdown any approach to a successful Dodian remake. You blame us' for your failures and want us to figure it out on our own.

I've watched you Nozemi attempt this for years and you never produce a single successful remake. You are the wrong person for management clearly and with these responses they show your true intentions.

Already stated my intentions multiple times. I only put this up so people can play it, rather than having someone put up a new equally bad remake time and time again.

Ivan is behind the wheel, I don't do anything anymore. Only reason I'm admin on site atm was because I had to check something that required admin access in game.

Don't think it's any point in you and I discussing anything. Doubt we'll ever meet any kind of understanding from either side. So if you're so unhappy about what's going on here, my suggestion is to start your own thing somewhere else.

This is the last professional thing I did for Dodian:
https://dodian.net/showthread.php?t=374

[Knight]

Originally Posted by Nozemi

Already stated my intentions multiple times. I only put this up so people can play it, rather than having someone put up a new equally bad remake time and time again.

Ivan is behind the wheel, I don't do anything anymore. Only reason I'm admin on site atm was because I had to check something that required admin access in game.

Don't think it's any point in you and I discussing anything. Doubt we'll ever meet any kind of understanding from either side. So if you're so unhappy about what's going on here, my suggestion is to start your own thing somewhere else.

This is the last professional thing I did for Dodian:
https://dodian.net/showthread.php?t=374

Stop telling me to 'just make a remake yourself' as if that justifies ANYTHING?

How awful are you that stating this is the only solution to my issue here? You are such a disgrace to the name Dodian! If you think a player wanting to see a successful Dodian, that asked very minor questions, should be treated as such than you need to leave! This is the problem Dodian has had for years.

If Ivan wants to see a successful nostalgic remake than he needs to follow the correct path at finding the core issues on why Dodian Remakes have failed since the dawn of Dodian. No one has successfully remade a Dodian that lasts and that's all I care about.

I do not need to recreate my own Dodian server to prove a point!

Disgraceful!

Originally Posted by Knight

Stop telling me to 'just make a remake yourself' as if that justifies ANYTHING?

How awful are you that stating this is the only solution to my issue here? You are such a disgrace to the name Dodian! If you think a player wanting to see a successful Dodian, that asked very minor questions, should be treated as such than you need to leave! This is the problem Dodian has had for years.

If Ivan wants to see a successful nostalgic remake than he needs to follow the correct path at finding the core issues on why Dodian Remakes have failed since the dawn of Dodian. No one has successfully remade a Dodian that lasts and that's all I care about.

I do not need to recreate my own Dodian server to prove a point!

Disgraceful!

You proved your point just fine. I answered your questions as well. I also told you I already more or less left.

What you fail to understand is; there is nobody that can make any professional guarantees to treat this project the way you want. Not even you apparently.

If I leave it completely, we're going back to the way things were when a new fresh just as shitty remake (both in management and play-ability) reboots every year or so. I suppose you want that then?

Get your head out of your ass. Maybe you can grasp the situation then.

The fact that the only thing you pull out of all I wrote is that I suggest you make your own remake, shows how much you don't really care about making this a successful thing. You're just here to talk shit about those who're currently in charge of making this whatever it currently is.